How Karma works with Negative & Positive people…
“The negative people take advantages from time to time…Because the other person’s intentional negatives will be so strong and they have a strong mind of being successful in their aim……..
Ah ! how easily the weak minds gets carried away with other persons thoughts and plans…. and many people would even destroy their lives due to these workout of cunning minds….!!”
I would say that both people are taking advantage of one another. This is hard to see if you are the person in the relationship who is generally conscientious, but it is true. The desire-driven person is drawn to the emotionality and conscientiousness of the other, because they lack it in themselves. The conscientious person is drawn to the physicality, the free expression of desire and Will in the other because of their lack of comfort with these aspects of their own psyche.
Both are exploiting the need in the other, and both wound each other equally, though it hardly ever appears that way (to either party).
These compensatory forces are at work in healthy and destructive relationships, both. The difference is that in inherently destructive relationships, the only good outcome is for the person’s involved to face some negative truth about themselves that is embodied by their counterpart, or to embrace and love some singular aspect of their personality embodied in the other.
Whereas in a healthy relationship, there is the implied goal of both people embracing in themselves that host of aspects they are drawn to in each other, over a lifetime together, in order for them to become whole.
In the former type of relationships, there does not actually need to be any actual interaction between the two in order for the goal to be achieved. These are what we have called infatuations. One may experience a number of these throughout ones life, and never act on them, and still obtain the unconscious lesson/change offered in them.
In healthy relationships, one must remain in the relationship in order to get the full benefit of what the other person means for them. They will have to resist the call of their own pride frequently and endure the force of their own fears, now triggered by the other person, in order to become whole.
The infatuation relationships also meant to guide us to wholeness. And we cannot say which of us needs to act out these inherently destructive relationships and who merely needs to note and learn from the presence of infatuation within them. Sometimes some of us will need the destruction that comes from such infatuations in order to free us from the artificiality of our lives. If, for example we were raised to be totally hypocritical, and hyper-concerned about our public image and reputation, having to undergo the agony of an infatuation relationship can (with a little help from friends who love you) enable you to get free of the tyranny of reputation and live a normal honest human life.
I have had infatuations a few times, and fortunately could comfortably discuss them with my loved one (who like me understood the nature of these psychical forces). And she has too. Our understanding of the purpose of these forces and our love and trust in one another has helped us immensely in effectively processing these parts of our life, and consequently neither of us has needed to act on these infatuations.
I think is helpful to concentrate on the present. And if we are going to not fall into the trap of fatalism, which is insanity in a fancy coat, we need to understand that the laws of cause and effect, that are what we know as Karma, are only useful in the present.
I can ponder what the future of my present actions are and make good choices now. Even when I can clearly see how cause and effect apply to the past choices I have made there is nothing I can do about that, but learn from my mistakes to make better choices.
Thus Karma reaches into the present in the sense that if I think that by my planting crops of fear I will get the life that comes from love, I should know that I am mistaken. And conversely, if I plant seeds of love that I will end up with crops of fear, I should take encouragement from the understanding that the seeds of love must produce life, because they always do, and only can produce life.
Karma’s law of sowing and reaping is not given us for the purpose of dreading what might happen as a result of past choices. Karma cannot, for example, determine that a person living now will come to a bad end, because of the choices made in previous incarnations. The effects of those previous choices can always be resolved by the love we live out today.
Love will always be greater than fear.
Life will always be greater than death.
We can always make choices now that will ransom back our souls kidnapped by previous choices (whether they be choices made in our present life or a previous incarnation). So, we should let Karma brood over us like a nurturing mother, who says to us, did you drink up all your milk? Did you choose to love today, in your encounter with so and so? And if and when we must tell our great mother, no, I reacted to them in fear, Karma will tell us like a loving mother, well, what can we best do about that?
Karma is always pointing our attention forward in life, even though she remembers the past perfectly. And even when she does remind us of the past it is only to encourage us to take the best steps forward. Karma has no fear. Karma is meant to instill no fear in us. It is meant to be a kind of encouragement to us from a loving God who knows how we should live.
If I was a selfish fearful antagonistic cynical young man, and caused many people loss and pain, and I had a spiritual awakening that genuinely transformed my soul to that of a loving person who regularly sacrificed for the well-being of others, do you not see that that love I had now could reverse the effects of the fear I lived out then?
I could not make it so that the pain and loss I caused then did not happen, but love could transform the bad I did back then into many good things, in as much as it would prove to all that love was capable of changing a person from bad to good. Every genuinely good thing I did, I would not be doing them only for the benefit of my own soul, but for everyone else who wanted reason to hope they could change, too.
Love would effectively buy back those years and give them a good meaning by virtue of the good change in my soul. One would now say of his deeds; he did terrible things to many people, but look how much he has changed. Observe how much love he genuinely pours out onto those in need.
Yes, those bad things he did in the past would of course still be bad, but even their badness would be put to some good use by love. In this way the choices we make now have a karmic value greater than the choices we made then. Our present choices, for good or evil, determine the ultimate outcome of our life, regardless of the choices we made in the past.
The choices we have made in our past do affect how we have started out, but cannot determine what we do with what we began with, and thus do not determine how we will end up. A person may start out with much good and end up spoiling it with much bad, too, and we all have no trouble believing that. Why then do we have difficulty believing love overcomes good.
If you owed me 1 million rupees, and you fell upon hard times and could not pay me back. I would be staring at a loss of 1 million rupees, regardless of what I thought of you, and this would then come between the two of us. If I cancelled your debt to me, however, if I said you now no longer owe me anything, And I truly meant it, there would no longer be anything between us.
Love covers a multitude of sins. That is not merely a slogan of some religion, it is a practical psychological reality of the human condition. Can animals love? Yes, and this only means that the existence of love is more certain, not less certain. Even animals without our level of cognition can love. Love is what binds everything in existence into its present form.
Systems require harmony of their components in order for them to not only function but to exist. Love is harmony. The universe is a systematically unfolding system of systems. Love is everywhere you look. That is why it is not merely religious salesmanship to say God is love, it is scientific reality.
Truth only comes in the fullness of time. And time is a construct of love. There is not time apart from matter I as much as time has no frame of reference apart from the existence of matter. And matter is system, and system is harmony of components, and harmony is love. So, time (and its fullness) is love’s timing.
I don’t mean to suggest that Karma is done away with by love or forgiveness. No, rather, it is fulfilled, fully realized in love, and in particular, love’s forgiveness. You have attempted to construct a concept of Karma without accounting for the existence of love, and karma, is order, the order of the universe, so karma is essentially love and it obeys the will of love.
The laws of cause and effect make room for the power of love to make something out of nothing, to transform, to heal, and to make that which was bad, good. It does this by means of empowering our choices in the present moment to affect the whole of our existence up to that point. When we are not embodied any longer, we will not be limited with the limitations of our bodies, and will see the outcome of every choice. That will effectively end the viability of choice (choice is only viable if you cannot clearly see the outcome of that choice.), and we will thus have to live with the choices we made while we were still in these bodies.
And that is why the law of karma is given to us now, in these bodies, because we (who are naturally subjective, cannot see the forest for the trees) need to be reminded that there is an effect for every cause.
What you don’t seem to take into account in your views of karma is that love is the foundational cause and it thus has the greatest effect. It does not cancel out cause and effect, it is the full realization of it. Love is karma.
What has a greater affect upon a human soul than love? Karma is only a reminder that love is everything else in the world and universe around us, it is not only about us, and thus we must come to be loving beings ourselves if we are going to fit in to the universe around us.
But Karma will also love us into that place of becoming loving beings, and forgiveness is of paramount importance it that process.
How meaningful it is…..We always need to reduce the GAP between what we assume / perceive and what exactly we are…..! When we do not know about ourselves, we keep assuming and one fine day we realize that what we are and what we assume are totally different….. We take lot many decisions depending on our perception about self… !!
– Written by John Brusseau
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